Now it's official : I'm lost

[patriciabtParticipant Post count: 56]

Hi there the Walter and Jeffrey Dude crew

I LOVE Infinity, and what all the good features but am I too stupid to use it or what !?

ok I wrote this in April : http://community.presscrew.com/topic/well-lot-of-things-in-this-topic/ there was indeed lot of questions in it, but not about actual tech stuff, and now, I’m even lost at doc ! ARGHHHHH

now ! you wrote we can do without coding well…. at least I must understand the configuration and this is not easy for me, or I deeply misunderstood the inner principles of Infinity

ok:
1 – if I have a multisite environement, with BP in the main site, should I install Infinity “The grand-parent” with only the engine? and buddypress (without engine) as a child? and use on my main site, then I want my users (the ones with subsites) to be able to use the power of infinity, but not buddypress, so should I install a child theme as a parent, (child of the grand-parent) and then have subthemes as childs of the child?

what need to go in each of configuration files? I have no idea where to set what features? at which level?

2 – and also, if all is activated in the first grand-parent, then it’s all activated in child, and must we set off? I tried to add as a test to Twenty Eleven as stated in your help file, but well, and then? whatever I’ll change in the Infinity panel won’t be applied? what do I do wrong? (and as a side note, do you call cpanel your panel? because cpanel as a hostmanagement script is very widely used, and this can lead to confusion)

3 – also, themes that have a special function will look for missing files under Infinity? how to avoid that?

4 – another question, I tried to translate from there https://github.com/PressCrew/infinity-lang and uploaded to languages folder and well, nothing, until I found out the english strings were hardcoded in ICE files?

5 – more questions to come in comments later, I’m sure

in short : I’m lost, and not happy to be lost … and to be honnest because this forum has not lot of activity, and it takes sometimes days to have an answer, I sometimes didn’t dare to post

well, I do hope to be a good ambassador of Infinity as soon as I understand it and can apply it easily. One of my plans is to make easy tools available and well explained to the french speaking community (among other ideas) but in the meantime I’m looking for an easy way for my users to customize their themes)

Thanks in advance ! Have a nice day and week-end

Patricia Switzerland

[patriciabtParticipant Post count: 56]

Hi @Bowe,

I know you are busy correcting the “updating issue”, and that there has been Euro2012 matches to watch but I know you have already started an answer for me, as you told me on Twitter.
would you mind to share what you already prepared? even if not complete, it could already help me and put me on the right track.

I thank you very much in advance for your help !
have a nice week-end
Patricia
Switzerland

[patriciabtParticipant Post count: 56]

I’m very glad RC 1 is released now, congratulations

I’m still lost about my above questions from June 23rd

[boweParticipant Post count: 698]

Hi Patricia,

I’ll post an updated FAQ which adresses your issues first thing in the morning. Sorry to keep you waiting!

[patriciabtParticipant Post count: 56]

no problem, and thanks

[boweParticipant Post count: 698]

I’ll try and answer your questions, so you hopefully be less frustrated and “stuck” with Infinity

1) If you are running Multisite AND want to use BuddyPress install the Infinity Base + BuddyPress version of Infinity. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with letting the sub-sites in your Multisite network activate a child theme of the Base BuddyPress version. It’s a bit hard to explain but in summary

Activating Infinity Base + BuddyPress on a sub-site does not mean BuddyPress is also being used on that site. It’s just that the Infinity theme contains all the extra template files that are needed to let BuddyPress function if it’s being activated

Question: Do I need BuddyPress ANYWHERE across my network ?

Yes: Always install the Infinity Base + BuddyPress version because without this version BuddyPress will never work.

Question: What happens when the BuddyPress version of Infinity (or a child theme) is activated on a site in my Multisite network that does not use BuddyPress?

This is perfectly fine and your theme and site will function absolutely splendid. Infinity is smart enough to know BuddyPress is not being used on the site, and all the special fucntionality will not be presented to the user. The only thing different is for you; the administrator. You will see that the Infinity theme folder contains the extra BuddyPress templates. That’s it!

More answers are on the way

[patriciabtParticipant Post count: 56]

thx a lot for this,

ok I knew Buddypress theme files would be loaded only if buddypress is activated, my question was that because Infinity is cascading, maybe it would be wise to have only the engine at the grand-parent, then buddypress for one and non buddypress for others, but ok then, it was my newbie idea lol,

thx again for the answer to my question 1 and when you’ll have answered 2->4 I’ll take care of the point 5

have a good day

[patriciabtParticipant Post count: 56]

well, 2 and 3 are the most important for me, for 4 I can (for now) put translated strings there directly in ICE

thx in advance

[patriciabtParticipant Post count: 56]

Hi @Bowe,

I hope you enjoyed the WordCamp in UK… I’m personally looking forward to attend a WC somewhere, sometimes…

well… do you by any chance have the answers to my points 2 and 3 ready?

(see, I now patiently wait 10 days before to bump )

I wish you a very good night

[boweParticipant Post count: 698]

Hi Patricia,

Sorry for the late reply.. Ok if I understand you correctly you want to know how you can prevent certain options or groups of sections NOT to display in your child theme right? In the future @Marshall will be bringing this functionality to the Control Panel (so that a site admin can hide stuff without having to use the ini files).

For now the easiest way to do this is using the ini files in your child theme. You can hide any section or option using the “ignore” setting. Here’s an example:

Let’s say you want to hide an entire section of options. Add the following to sections.ini:

<code> [general]
 ignore = "yes"
</code>

To find out all the names of the sections check out sections.ini in your parent theme. They are all added in that file (found under /engine/config/)

If you wanted to hide an option you’d do the same but then in your options.ini file.

<code>[infinity-header-logo_image]
ignore = "yes"
</code>

You can use this trick for any option, section or dashboard page. To find out the name of the options you just activate “Developer Mode” by adding this to your child themes functions.php

<code>define('INFINITY_DEV_MODE', true);
</code>

Then in your options panel you see a new Sample Tab with the option name. The highlighted text in this image shows you what the option name is:

[boweParticipant Post count: 698]

Regarding question #3.. Could you be a little bit cleared about that issue? Do you have a code example so I can see what’s wrong?

[patriciabtParticipant Post count: 56]

Hi @Bowe, I thank you very much for your answer about my point 2, you took great care to post screenshots and explain in details, so I thank you for your time.

It’s great now to know how to unactivate things, but well, I’m still lost. I know my english is not that good and sometimes I must express myself “strangely” for others who speak very well, sorry about that.

ok, so it wasn’t just “hide” stuff, but maybe easier to understand with my question “I tried to add as a test to Twenty Eleven as stated in your help file, but well, and then? whatever I’ll change in the Infinity panel won’t be applied? what do I do wrong?”

precisely, what I would like to do, is to integrate infinity to existing themes that I will buy (or find safe free ones) or pay a designer to do or etc., and have them on my multisite, and give a choice among several themes for my users, I would like infinity to drive them all, but some theme would be quite simple and ok for my free users, and some would be of higher quality, with more customization possible, and would be available to my premium users, hence to need to activate/unactivate options (no problem on using ini files really)

my dream would be that my users can choose among lot of themes and they can customize the colors, backgrounds, etc via infinity. but then I failed to integrate infinity to have it behave as I thought it would… I mean I failed to integrate with exisiting theme which already has its own css, functions, etc. should infinity override that?

hence my question : am I too stupid to use it? lol (ok, you don’t know the answer to that question ) or is it that I misunderstood the concept and aim of infinity itself?

about question 3, I couldn’t reproduce, got an error message once … well … forget it !

thx again for your help, I hope soon the penny drops in my mind and then I stop to bother you, lol !

Have a wonderful day/night !

[patriciabtParticipant Post count: 56]

As I read on Twitter today July 22nd : Happy Birthday @Bowe.
I really hope you WON’T answer to me today here !!

I wish you a real great party Proost, Geluk + Gezondheid

[patriciabtParticipant Post count: 56]

ok, now I’m very sorry to insist

we solved the uploading file problem, thanks to you @Bowe, ok great, now it’s like on my other site where I never added a htpsswd …

it’s same than when I posted this on June 23rd, I cannot have some of my changes applied to the theme. ok now my image is uploaded, nice, but in the css, still the overlay background shows, not my own background I just added to the panel (and which uploaded to the correct folder)

• how to deactivate that overlay?
• how to add my background now uploaded? how to choose a file already in the media library, because the select file will upload a new file again every time I try (even if it works that would be the case also if I want to use several times the same image)
• I tried to change the colors, it works, I try to upload a logo, it works, but changing background doesn’t work, I tried in layout and content(and yes, I press apply, and yes now it even appears in the “current image” thumbnail)

all in all, some of the things do apply, some do not, and that was my question # 2 in June’s topic above when I wrote :
“I tried to add as a test to Twenty Eleven as stated in your help file, but well, and then? whatever I’ll change in the Infinity panel won’t be applied? what do I do wrong?”

and my July 18th comment above “my dream would be that my users can choose among lot of themes and they can customize the colors, backgrounds, etc via infinity. but then I failed to integrate infinity to have it behave as I thought it would”

actually I struggle a lot maybe my explainations are not always clear in english (not my primary language and learnt late), and I hope I’m understood !

thx in advance

[boweParticipant Post count: 698]

In the next version of Balance these problems will be fixed. I pinpointed the issues with some options not being applied. Sorry for the trouble but it will be fixed in Balance 1.1

[patriciabtParticipant Post count: 56]

OHHH, and me thinking since more than 1 month that it was me being too stupid to deserve your product !!

is infinity in github already correct regarding this?

ok, then for 1.1 maybe then one cab find a way to select “no overlay image”, and re-use an already uploaded file. should I post a feature request or this comment is ok for that?

now the worse of questions, I know devs do not like it : any date for release of 1.1?

thx @Bowe

[boweParticipant Post count: 698]

Marshall and I are now implementing a solution and pushing it to GitHub and Balance 1.1. I advise you to wait until tonight or tomorrow.. It will be out very soon

[patriciabtParticipant Post count: 56]

Hi @Bowe or @Marshall me again … (you’ll soon be fed up of me

so… I know these last days you have been working on the previous “issues” (that some of the changes I did were not applied in the panel) so I downloaded a GitHub zip with latest changes from aug 3rd (hoping this is a glimpse of the soon to be released ones), and now for the first time of my life I could change the layout background, great, feels good ! (tried since april, lol, you can’t imagine how often I’ve been testing GitHub versions, lol)

so for now I test with infinity “pure” and not Balance

now more questions : 1- how to remove the header background (the one with the earth pic), when I go to header background image option, it doesn’t appear on “current image” so I cannot “trash” it, without using another one

2 – if I want a background color (ie content) to be transparent, this doesn’t apply if I write transparent in the color field? ok, I found, but I keep this here in case it helps someone else. So there is main-wrap between the main layout and the content/sidebar, so I added to the “custom css” :

<code>.main-wrap {
    background: transparent;
}
</code>

I’m glad it works now about these (the solutions for the things that were not applied) now just to be sure I understand you clearly, the 2 other things I’m talking above (3 comments up), are also going to be in the next version? I copy there : – how to deactivate that overlay? – how to add my background now uploaded? how to choose a file already in the media library, because the select file will upload a new file again every time I try (even if it works that would be the case also if I want to use several times the same image)

actually with these, I think after that I can use Infinity / Balance in a prod environement if I translate all those options to french for my (soon to be) users, lol

have a very sunny Sunday

[patriciabtParticipant Post count: 56]

ok, thx the today Balance update and the github infinity solved issues such as “it doesn’t apply”, and for those interested forget my above custom css

for my 2 “new” questions, I’m sorry I shouldn’t have asked here as it added questions deep buried in latest comments above and not related to the first post initial requests, so please discard the questions, and I’ll ask them where I should in the Balance support, (discard here so it won’t be “crossposted” )

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